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For several years I’ve been looking for a way to combine a moisture quilt with a candy board. I think it is a common misconception that the bees chew up the sugar cake; I’ve always felt the process is as you described. I could do 16 hives in an hour. I fear they’re starving. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Now one more question. Also, should I be putting the pile of sugar in this month or wait? This means a lot to me. I might work just fine. Should I add some less dense blocks or is the hardness of sugar not an issue. I’ve been seeing bees flying almost every day. I use the same kind of candy board here in Marengo, Wi. It seems feeding sugar this way (it has water in it) is easier and less disruptive of the hive. I’ll be curious to hear how they work out for folks. It is 26 degrees right now. Good thought . Lots of types of nectar have high levels of sucrose, and honey bees have no issue with this, inverting it without knowing it. I am sure the bees don’t care either way, but I think I will probably revert to the hard candy method as rigidity of the block matters to me as far as placing it down on the frames and removing it when I need to examine frames in a hurry. I believe in the comments you said you put this no-cook-candy-board on in November. Pornhub is home to the widest selection of free Big Dick sex videos full of the hottest pornstars. Actually, I started this project using screws, but I didn’t have enough of the type I needed, so I just used nails instead. I love this method, plus it’s easy. But I do feel better having backup food on the hives, especially since our hot and dry summer produced very little in the way of nectar. Should I use smoke in the winter? I have a flat lid as well, but my lid sits on top of the legs, so that leaves about 1 1/2″ -2″ space between lid and top bars. I just checked my hive weight and when I lifted my top bar hive it was too light. I try not to use anything with an odor (such as Honey-B-Healthy or essential oils) while honey bees or yellowjackets are still flying in the fall. And it will be the end of April before there is pollen to be had here, so the candy board should do until then? Update! Cash ‘n Carry, a restaurant supply store. This is my first year, just starting. Good point. All rights reserved Honey Bee Suite © 2009-2021 by Rusty Burlew. I’m in central New Hampshire U.S. We’ve had two hard frosts, nighttime temps in the 20s, and tomorrow night it will be 12 degrees F. Most local mentors are advising me to place my candy board in January. The large cluster is connected to the food by a narrow path which the retrievers are using. The hive needs to be dry so the honey can be cured. It continues to work for me, too. You need to drive the water out to get fondant. Tom. I don’t see a problem. Listen up folks. Guess that’s because I laid them on floor in hive? I am devastated to have lost my colony. The candy board works best when the bees are clustered for the winter because then water from their respiration condenses on the underside of the candy and dissolves a thin film that they can eat. I am so cheap I do the same thing but use the gutter guard that you buy at Lowes it comes in rolls 20′ long by 6″ wide and it is less than $4. Once mixed, I spread a layer on the bottom of the candy board, divided the pollen patty and put a piece on either side of the wood, and put the rest of the candy on top. But here’s my advice: if you don’t like the idea, don’t do it. One thing I did find is don’t place them on a weak hive that is low on food to early, it will start a robbing frenzy, so I wait until the cold settles in for the season ( Northern Ohio). Debbe Krape in Delaware sent me some no-cook ideas that she collected, and then directed me to the West Central Ohio Beekeepers, where some of the ideas originated. Thanks for this informative post. If the hives have nearly enough to get through the winter, I would instead add a bag of sugar in February or March. I did it for the first time last winter. I used regular cane sugar and found I needed to use a bit more water than your recipe. Most recommended tiny holes that I thought wouldn’t do much good, and most had to be shielded from the candy that might block them. The shim not only provides an entrance but gives me some extra space for the sag. Why the need for the quilt? I can’t think of any reason hardware cloth wouldn’t work for a candy board, other than the support issue. Can I use metal queen excluders in place of the plastic. Also, do you insulate the under part of the top cover? In my climate a 4# bag of sugar is plenty. That said, if I needed to feed that many bees in a big hurry, I would go buy those four-pound bags of sugar they sell at the grocery stores, lay one across the top bars directly over the cluster, slit the bag open across the top with a knife, surround it with a shallow super, and add the lid. Within a couple of hours I had the same problems as Aram – “craps” thru the middle and lots of brittle crumbles. The surface layers of sugar dissolve and the bees lick up the syrup. I also read that you don’t want anything solid between the brood food and the quilt box. You need to check on your candy boards frequently. This causes a thin layer of the brick to dissolve and provide edible food. By the end of winter they would have already started a small patch of brood that the cluster wouldn’t leave. I have been scowering all sorts of books publications and the net for ideas on how to combine a cedar blanket with a candy board. Quite a good observation. Once it’s too cold to fly, they won’t cart them out. Hi Rusty, your shared insight and experience is PRICELESS and very much appreciated!!! Have a good day. I’d like to share some advice here that can hopefully spare other new beekeepers the pain I’m going through right now. It is the middle of February here in Ontario, Canada, and my one hive is pretty light on stores. Do both the candy board and the quilt, can’t hurt, but definitely works to control condensation and more importantly gives them food whenever they need it. Thanks again! I am going to make my candy with pollen substitute today and wait for temp to come up before adding it. Thanks again to Rusty for sharing this method!!! Last fall all my hives were short going into winter because of the long drought, so they needed lots of feed. Thank you for the quick reply. I sometimes get confused by the various different feeding methods (i.e. If the bees don’t need sugar, they usually stay down in the brood boxes. I want to use the queen excluder for the candy board as that is what I have on hand but aren’t winter bees bigger and won’t that cause an issue with them trying to get thru the excluder when they have to get to more sugar? What are your thoughts about inverting this candy board so that the queen excluder is on the top? I think the essential oil mixture will do no harm in the candy board, but I don’t think it will help with Nosema, either. I have a southern package of Italians in four mediums with two full mediums of capped honey (approx. It’s not enough to kill a colony, but it may shorten the lives of some bees. Your choice. You describe the entire surface melting process very well. candy board. I’ve heard seven pounds isn’t enough, 15 pounds is too much, so I arbitrarily decided on 10. I placed an Imrie shim beneath my candy board. The primary reason for using black felt is for heat absorption, as you pointed out. It’s only a very naive beekeeper who believes “his” way is the only way, or that his way will work everywhere. Feeding and caring for brood is what honey bees are all about. So, next year, I’m going to wait until wasps are gone before I place the mountain sugar rims. Looks good, Rusty. Minnesota now has a state bee as well as a state insect. No. That sounds perfect, quick and easy. Actually, they did really well and bounded into spring with no problem. Good afternoon. Is there a chance they too would be excluded or get stuck in the new excluder trying to get to the sugar? Hives are placed with some natural wind breaks but wrapping (with either Tyvek or black felt) seems like a small price in terms of time and money that could make the difference between getting to spring or not. Thank you for the photos that really helped. Yes, I have a separation between my top bars. I hope the later works and may provide them with an extra boost. Learn to budget, beat debt, & build a legacy. Drive out some and you get slurry. The shim and candy board go on top of the highest box. After adding the water, I just reached in the pot and worked the mixture by hand. I used plastic queen excluders as recommended. How will the bees get through the tiny holes? I’m going to do it. Has that changed with this new method of no-cook-sugar/candy-boards with ‘free choice’ patties, only February is a while past the solstice. Since my no-cook candy board will have ventilation through the center, and my quilt has ventilation ports, there is plenty of opportunity for air flow. In the warmer months, that is probably not the case. Rusty, The temps are all over the map here this winter, so I was going to put it on when they are around freezing in the next few days. Thanks so much Rusty…just saw your post now! I don’t find it necessary, but if you think it will help, go ahead. I’ve sent a photo of a representative one. Baker’s sugar in small quantities can be expensive, but in the the 50-pound bag, I pay only 2 cents per pound more than regular sugar, which is totally worth it. Being near the lake limits my bees forage and they did not create a honey super although they have lots of honey within the brood boxes. Very timely post and instructive photos. You don’t mention where you live, but I think wrapping can be overkill unless you live in a really cold place. I already have the metal ones. Do you consider this to be a strategy that you’ll continue to use, or do you think there are better options? I think it must be a psychological barrier more than anything: if you have to go through an excluder to do to work, that’s one thing; but going through to feast is something else again. I placed ten pounds of baker’s sugar in a pot and added 10 tablespoons of water. Using hardware cloth with very small spacing (basically what you would find in a screen window) for the moisture quilts. I haven’t liked the sugar bricks previously, because when I checked on them the sugar had dissolved (in bottom of hive) and I had a wet, cold syrupy mess. Thank You. It makes it hard to know how much honey they actually have. Instead, they beg food from the workers. Do you or any of your Langley BC readers know where to purchase bakers sugar? If they run out of honey you will be glad you used the boards. Capital One Shopping is a free browser extension that saves you money automatically Capital One Shopping is a free browser extension that locates and tries out promo codes, looks for lower prices on the items you’re viewing, and alerts you whenever there’s a better deal available from another retailer. I don’t think the 3-inch hole is nearly enough to make the quilt work properly. I will look at the gutter guard, sounds like an interesting idea. Last week it was sunny and calm so I decided to check on them to see if any bees were eating the sugar. Buy pure New Zealand Manuka Honey. Could it be used in the fall as a substitute for 2:1 syrup? I’ve been wondering how your waterfront bees were doing. I am new, took over 3 hives from a retiring beekeeper a couple months ago. Lay a sheet of newspaper on top and gently turn the pans over onto the newspaper. ? Just above the brood box I added the Imirie shim with the opening in front, then the candy board, then the quilt, then the lid. 2. in attaching the queen excluders on bottoms of feeder boards, i have a slightly uneven surface and can see small gaps. I think most of my colonies should get by on their own honey stores anyway, but the candy board is an insurance policy of sorts and not designed to replace all their food. Thanks so much for the info and insight Rusty! Done. I’d heard of “lazy man’s candy” made of a dampened bag of sugar (still in the bag) left to harden and placed on top of the crown board, but it didn’t seem very accessible to the bees. I just finished making candy boards. I like to wait until after the winter solstice to give any protein supplement. While unnecessary for the sake of the bees, adding acid can help to prevent crystallization of syrup. Cold weather is headed back in a day or two. Wintergreen probably won’t hurt anything, but it probably won’t help either. Generally, with a big healthy colony, your instructor’s advice is okay. That’s okay. I took two bars out (of about 23) and then spaced the rest. This, in conjunction with Rusty’s moisture quilt (see link below), the bees will stay dry and fed all winter long. The sugar hardens nicely across the plastic ones and they lay flat, which is why I chose them. Thanks, John. I’ve overwintered 100% of my colonies numerous times using this system, so I have no reason to change it. There’s probably little functional importance to the observation, other than if one is in a very dry climate it may help to jumpstart consumption of the sugar cake by misting with water before insertion. So too big can be tricky too. Mixed sugar with water in the Kitchen Aid and added on top. The honey bee is an insect and is preeminently a bee; “honeybee” is equivalent to “Johnsmith.” So I figure, added to other colony stresses in winter, it just isn’t worth it. Apologies for droning on. 1. Down here I get it at Cash ‘n Carry, which is a restaurant supply store. The non-native European Honey Bee is the state insect of: Not one native bee is a state insect. . Many other people have noticed bees carrying particles of sugar out of the hive and dumping it like garbage as soon as the weather gets warm. It’s been a warm fall so far and the bees have been hammering them. Each time someone visits Honey Bee Suite, his or her location will appear on the map. You can make the candy boards as thick as you like. Tough opening a hive and finding swarm cells when the weather report says 40sF and rain for the next 2 weeks. The extreme case is a large, 3 box hive with maybe a pound left. This product belongs in the failed product extension bin and should be removed for sale. I lay down wax paper and cut two access holes and cover them with small cups, then add the sugar mix. Im following the Barnyard Bee’s recipe for the concentrate: 4 tsp Tea Tree Oil, 4 tsp Wintergreen Oil, and 2 tsp Spearmint oil very well mixed into a quart of 1:1 or 2:1 syrup…. I like baker’s sugar (also known as bar sugar) because the fine particle size allows it to dissolve quickly. If you are making a switch, I would be interested in hearing the reasoning behind the decision to do so. They are easy to make, the bees love them, and any leftover candy can be reused or dissolved into syrup for spring., I put “candy boards” of the no-cook sort on all my hives around 1 Oct, each containing about 10 pounds. My instincts are telling me to place my shim and candy board under the quilt box now. No, I’m not familiar with the injection molded frames. I love your work. 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